C.A.R.P.S.

[Sir Llyshon]

First, this is Silverthorne. She is guilty until DeVris says otherwise. Where the hell are you from Res? This innocent until proven nonsense sounds ridiculously complicated and unwieldy to me.

I haven't heard Devris say that. I heard you say it, and you aren't in Devris. I didn't know it was customary for Toevass to be the driving force behind arresting someone. I'm from Silverthorne alright, but that's where my confusion comes in. I never seen were-creatures ever treated as humans before. As far as I know they are always killed on sight, so I guess I don't understand why you're so interested in defending one. Makes me think it's something personal for you... like maybe you knew this were-cat, or you have a friend who is one or something.

you seem to have completely forgotten that two people both humans were murdered, not just one. Didn't you learn math? If not speak with me and I'll make sure you get a teacher as soon as we've finished here.

*Res laughs* "Oh I know math well enough. We just have a disagreement on the numbers. As I see it, the first wasn't a murder as it wasn't a human that was killed. The second wasn't a murder 'cuz it was self-defense. But i'm rehashing stuff I already said.

Finally, we did, under order of the crown hunt down wild uncontrolled lycan's a few moons ago and have done so sense then. One can assume that if you are being attacked by a were they are evil and cannot control their affliction and can clearly kill them.

Wait, so we have to wait to be attacked by a vicious and deadly creature that can turn US into vicious and deadly creatures before we put them down? That's not only crazy, but it's not how it's done anywhere else. I've talked to plenty of werewolf hunters who stalk werewolves and get bounties for their kills, and they sure as hell aren't going to wait until one of those monsters turns rabid on them before they put them down.

Oh wait, he murdered a second person who simply tried to ask why he was killing someone. He didn't speak to Cane. He just killed him. Hmm, that to me sounds like a hard case for him to prove his innocence on. But hey, I wish him the best of luck. I simply want him brought to trial. We cannot allow people, or what ever he is, to just walk into town and murder our members.

Yeah, well that's only part of the story as I heard it. I heard that Cane grabbed on to him and refused to let go. Like I said before, that's a clear case of self-defense. Cane had no authority to arrest Luthien. He's not the law. Grabbing on to someone and holding on to them is an attack, and a man has a right to defend himself from an attack. Cane knows it, too, that's why he isn't pressing charges.

[Kenric Sayne]

"All Rowan did was grab him so he would stop attacking so he could ask what was going on. The second Rowan touched him Luthian turned and attacked, there was no time for Rowan to let go because the attacks were so fast and sudden. Rowan was murdered, it wasn't self-defense."

[Daniel Lockheart]

The last I checked any citizen, such as myself, regardless of their house affiliation who sees injustice, here double murder, can bring a complaint to DeVriss.

The fact that an entire inn full of people let some stranger, yes a stranger who only a few members of the town had met and most didn't even know who he was, walked into the inn and murder some girl who did nothing and who had been in and out of town with us for months, without that stranger saying a word and then that same stranger turns on Cain the only one of our own who actually tries to see what is going on and possibly stop it and is in turn murdered himself and again no one else does anything to stop this to see what is going on.

You're damn right I'm pissed. And why don't you look into your crystal bottle and see if you can predict if I'll let this get swept under the rug.

Don't get me started on the on the fact that there really is no need for a trial. Luthian is NOT a human. He's not a tax payer. His father was a wear and his mother is an elf. By your logic we should be hunting him down for being a wear.

And Cain is not pressing charges because he knew Luthian's father and made an undisclosed promise to him it has nothing to do with this cooked up excuse of self defense. I try to step in to see why someone is killing another and get some answers and now it's fair game to murder me? Where is your logic? Have you ever heard of proportionate response? Even if Cain had restrained him, that's still no excuse to murder him.

And as for you questioning my character, I'll answer your question, despite you as a member of my house, my guild and the longs knives all under my authority have no right to ask or accuse me of such. No. I am not lycan or were creature nor am I aware of anyone I know being one. My healing is all natural and if you have a silver weapon I'll be happy to prove it to you. I in fact believed the gypsy girl to be a animalist, something totally natural. That is until Twilight divined to see what her condition was and proceeded to say how as soon as her son found out, she'd be dead. Well I will say one thing, that's the best prediction she's ever had.

[Edrick Stormbane]

I checked into the newly deceased. Mandilore has no records of her or Luthian paying any taxes localy. This is a matter for Devris and the law.

I will help as usual to uphold the laws of Silverthorn and protect the fine folks of this town. So if you need help, I'm willing.

[Darthesis]

Darthesis speaks up from near the doorway to the Inn.

Interesting indeed.

As for the status of either Luthien or the gypsy as werecreatures, that is a matter for DeVrie. I can't say I know the details of such laws. I do however know that there have been 5 members of this town to my knowledge who have been infected with lycanthropy or cursed to be a lynanthrope and the 'heroes' of this town have done what they could to get them cured. In fact I think all of them were successfully cured. I'm not sure about one of them.

Since accusations are being thrown around, I will also state for the record that I am not a lycanthrope nor do I have any close friends... that have been or are lyncanthropes.

Last moon is being brought up as an example of simply killing Lycanthropes as they are found. Except that's not at all what happened. When it was determined that a single lycanthrope was actively trying to spread this disease across multiple towns no one that I heard brought up the idea of simply killing all these infected people. Everyone was looking for a way to stop this active lycanthrope leader by killing him or by other method, and then for a way to cure the possibly hundreds of infected peasants. Our nobles supported this by giving resources to our town to do so. So our townsmembers AND our local nobility thought of lycanthropy as a disease to be cured, not something that you should simply destroy on knowledge or sight. Obviously if you are attacked you have a right to defend yourself, but in all of those cases, we had a chance to act to cure before any violence was committed. Both our local leadership and our nobility agreed it was what they wanted to do, and they did. Successfully.

In fact, after I was hired to stop the lead lycanthrope known to be spreading the disease I was asked by multiple people including nobility if there was a way to subdue him, and if so please do so such that we could cure him as well. Unfortunately it was not possible at the time.

If I am not being actively attacked by a human under the effects of a disease or curse, I would never choose to kill someone and remove their head as a viable option. I would assume I would be on trial immediately for such an act. Self defense would be subduing them. Self defense if I was lesser skilled but felt threatened would be to kill them and bring the body for trial. Removing the head does make it clear that I was not interested in having the law decide anythingg.

However on the matter of Rowen Kane, I can say that I was there. No one attacked anyone by way of self defense there. Rowen stood up, did not even draw his sword to my knowledge (but I could only see one side of him) and laid his hand on Luthien's shoulder and pulled him back from his target. He asked him to 'stop'. I would not like being pulled bodily but even I with my lifestyle would not feel like my life was in danger from Rowen or anyone in that situation. Certainly if my reaction at that point was to turn, and kill a citizen of Silverthorn and hero of Midway in just a few quick blows... I would fully expect to be on trial for his murder. Note that I've seen Kane move quickly and I am sure he could have defended himself should he have chose to do so. He held his reaction hoping that Luthien would not kill him based on some reason. This oath bond to Luthien's father, should it be true, would explain what I could not explain at the time.

I have never been a hero, and never will be a hero. Everyone knows my code. However no one in that room that did not try to stop what was going on, or knew in advance what was going to happen, can call themselves a hero.

I have no vested interest in any of the people involved other than having done business many times in the past with Rowen Kane. However my sort of work requires a certain level of order in the area. Chaos is not good for business. The law must be in place and enforced for myself to be profitably employed. What happened that night should come before DeVrie for justice, it was not lawful, it was not order... it was chaos.

[Res Ipsa]

*Res shrugs and takes a swig of ale*, "Hey now, I never accused YOU of being a were-creature. I said you might know someone who was one. I actually couldn't care less either way. I got no dog in this fight. Hell, I wasn't even there. Sometimes I just like to play devil's advocate. I'm sorry if I crossed the line."

*He takes another pull.* "I guess I just have no love for were-creatures. My brother was killed by one a while back, so I'm definitely not an impartial judge. You say she wasn't doing anything threatening, but I have a hard time trusting that she wasn't up to any good."

[Daniel Lockheart]

Well spoken Darthesis.

Res, I guess we'll never know. And bygones, let me buy your next round and lets leave this nasty business to DeVriss to sort out. I've said my peace.

[celegar]

*ziggy covers his mouth slightly with his hand, obviously atempting to alter his voice*

"wow this conversation is getting heated, we should all go to the silver rose tavern in midway and order a drink and also pay in cash"

"hey, that guy sounds like he's got the right idea, i agree with him"

[Rowen Kane]

well since i was the one killled and not any of you.........

he acted in self defense i knew what i was doing and did not react due the lvl of respect i have for his father. i died as a direct effect of my own actions, not anyone else. we will rule my death as a sucide by actions. if you want to have jakoric investigate. investigation done since i am a member of jakoric. and know all the details. twilight had not part so Daniel shove it. lutherin acted as he did, it was a lycan vs lycan action. we humans have no reason to interfere. i will defend luthern and twilight with word or sword until i no longer draw breath. i dont agree with lutherns actions but i at least understand them, unlike the rest of you, and Daniel i never saw you get up nor anyone else. that is what disturbs me, most of the "heros" sat in there seats and didnt even budge, i am ashamed to have ever called any of you cowards my friend. one last note.. my reasons for not killing luthern is the he is my friend and my brother by choice.

ziggy give me another.

[Barnabas Vulcan]

~Walks in~ Well, I obviously missed something while I was away. ~Sits and buys Rowan a drink~ Ya'll right buddy? Heard ya had a hard night.

[Rowen Kane]

not really just sick and tired of the people who sit by and do nothing judging everyone else. you know my friend this town needs a few more mirrors, so the people who judge can look into them before the open their mouths.

*holds his drink up*

here's to my favorite little kitten she will be missed.

*rowen chuggs the whole drink, then slams his mug down"

i ll have another ziggy

[Maka]

I gotta say that I've been amazed by how much people do absolutely nothing when something bad is happening and then have a strong opinion on it later.

I would have done SOMETHING if I were awake....

*maka burps loudly*

Anyway, if that's how Rowan sees it, that part of it's good enough for me.

[Daniel Lockheart]

I had said my peace on this, however, I will not stand idly by and allow you to discredit my name. I was not there when Luthern showed up in town nor when he murdered the girl. I didn't even know he was in this area. Had I know he was I would have warned the girl and had been in the inn one of us would be dead.

Do not open your mouth a shovel shit forth from it by calling me a coward. I have always stood up for this town and it's members. I have faced death over and over in the name of all that is good. I've spent nearly my entire life fighting for this Kingdom and what it stands for. So I like to write books and tell stories about my adventures, does that make my deeds any less valuable than those or Rowen Cain?

As for the rest of this issue, it needed saying and I will not apologize for bringing this to the magistrates attention. DeVriss will judge one way or the other. That's their job, not ToeVass nor Jakoric.

You want to investigate? Maybe ask a few questions. I'll give you a few ideas like: how did Luthern suddenly know to come to Midway when he's not been seen here in many years? How did he know as soon as he walked into town who the Lycanthrope was? Who summoned him or sent for him? Who pointed out the girl and told him she was a lycanthrope? What makes him any better than her? Why does one Lycanthrope deserve to live and another not?

From what has been said, he appeared in town, spoke with his mother and the constable and maybe a couple others and then proceeded to walked into the inn and without hesitation without question and without provocation he attacked and murdered this nice young girl.

And you think that's ok? Didn't you ever speak to her? Or try to get to know her? She was so young and so full of wanting to see the world.

You want to know what I'm ashamed of? It's not the town, it's me. Twilight told me that she was a Lycanthrop and that her son would kill her and I didn't take the time right then and there to do anything. Instead I went off to the Privy. And when I came back she was dead. Her blood is on all of our hands, mine included. Maybe if I'd gone and spoken to her at that moment none of this would be happening. Maybe I could have talked Luthern down where you failed? Maybe I could have cooked up a cure for her.

You seem to think I have something against this Luthern personally. I've never even met him, to the best of my knowledge. As for Twilight, well finding ways around the law or how to bad mouth my King and my Kingdom and stepping just up to that line without crossing it has become an art for her. I know not her guilt or innocence or even her involvement. I pointed out what she said and how soon thereafter it came to pass and I simply think that asking the questions is a good idea.

I mean isn't that what you do? Don't you ask questions and present the unbiased truth to the Court? Or does that rule only apply when those involved are not your friends? How can you say you are unbiased in your investigation in one breath and in the next speak of how you will die before anyone touches Luthern or his mother? How can the courts trust any words that come from your mouth? You have absolutely not credibility remaining after comments like that.

This isn't about vengeance or a grudge or anything personal, it's about that girl's life. Tell him to give us back her body. I can start working on a cure now for her. Maybe we can raise her still and cure her curse!

[olaf]

Olaf slams his drink down. "Ah, HA! A Quest!"

[Hawke]

Hawke mutters to whoever is close by, "I think Daniel and Rowan both need to stop comparing their dicks, and put them away. Neither one of them has room to talk. They both colluded with Darthesis to try to have myself and a number of other people executed 30 seconds after Lady Cathryn promised to get us cleansed after helping with the necromancers. If Edrial hadn't stood up for us, half the town might have tried to lynch us on the spot. But what do I know, I'm just a lowly Dwarf, and a newcomer as well."