C.A.R.P.S.

[Daniel Lockheart]

Look, I'm not a member of Devris, but... since when are were-creatures considered human? I know plenty of people, soldiers even, who would cut a werewolf down on sight without arresting them and "trying them for an affliction". Seems your logic hinges on what is defined as "human", and I don't think "were-cat" would qualify anymore than a vampire, or zombie, or werewolf, or anything else that *USED* to be human, but was transformed into something else.

So if a vampire was hanging around the inn being all friendly we wouldn't gut one of THEM? Some things are just naturally dangerous. Were-creatures are one of those things. Now it may be different if Bait's son is a greater werewolf... i dunno... never heard of them. Maybe they aren't dangerous if they aren't the same species or whatever.

As for Winter, you're already talking like she's guilty. You got no proof she did anything wrong... all you have is a statement she made that if her son were there he would kill that were-cat, and then later her son came in and killed it. It doesn't mean she was involved. I would think she would know her son well enough to know he wants to protect people from gettin' diseases by killing vicious were-creatures and she simply made a comment to that effect.

If I say "Hey, I think Bob would eat that sandwhich if he were here, then I leave, and Bob comes in and eats the sandwhich. It doesn't mean I made Bob eat it. It's probably just a coincidence. It doesn't prove that Bob and I conspired for him to eat a sandwhich... it just means I know that Bob likes sandwhiches."

First, this is Silverthorne. She is guilty until DeVris says otherwise. Where the hell are you from Res? This innocent until proven nonsense sounds ridiculously complicated and unwieldy to me. Second, I said I believe she was involved based upon what I was told and what I heard her say and that she was seen with him directly after the event. Should DeVris decide to bring her to trial then she will be given plenty of opportunity to prove her innocence. And should she have a friend who happens to have the proper status, like I don't know Galen? He can always spend influence with Jakoric to have them investigate and make a presentation to DeVris at a trial, again should DeVris decide to have one. Third, you seem to have completely forgotten that two people both humans were murdered, not just one. Didn't you learn math? If not speak with me and I'll make sure you get a teacher as soon as we've finished here. Finally, we did, under order of the crown hunt down wild uncontrolled lycan's a few moons ago and have done so sense then. One can assume that if you are being attacked by a were they are evil and cannot control their affliction and can clearly kill them. However, Devriss long ago ruled that one afflicted with lycanthropy who could demonstrate they had mastered the affliction, be it a disease or curse, are considered humans still. To the best of my knowledge this rulling has never been overturned. Meaning, killing her without at least speaking to DeVriss is murder. If Bait's child presents his case before DeVriss and the magistrates decide that all Lycan's are evil and need to be put down then Bait's son wins on count one. Oh wait, he murdered a second person who simply tried to ask why he was killing someone. He didn't speak to Cane. He just killed him. Hmm, that to me sounds like a hard case for him to prove his innocence on. But hey, I wish him the best of luck. I simply want him brought to trial. We cannot allow people, or what ever he is, to just walk into town and murder our members.

[Daniel Lockheart]

"Also, as a side-note, I have a nice gash on my forehead from where I tried to stop the attack on her, to which he simply turned and slashed at me twice"

And the charges keep mounting. (Looks to see if you are human?)

[Daniel Lockheart]

I am in complete agreement with Res on this. And, I know that Winter did not send Luthien in here to kill the were-cat. As I was outside talking with them before this happened and she did not tell him to do anything.

Good to know.

And Maka, the potions that we used on the werewolves last month only work if the creature has not transformed, yet. And, they are only for werewolves, not werecats. I had heard that when winter consulted the stars, she found the creature was a lesser werecat and not in control.

This first part is completely correct. However this second part is basically worthless. I mean no one in DeVriss would give the best diviner the time of day for trial purposes and second she's not the best of diviners.

(OOG: I was informed at NPC camp that the werecat was an NPC that she was playing. Also, Luthien is a PC character of Evan's.)

(Who cares? This isn't a useful comment.)

[Maxine Gordon]

(OOG: I was informed at NPC camp that the werecat was an NPC that she was playing. Also, Luthien is a PC character of Evan's.)

(Who cares? This isn't a useful comment.)

(i think he was trying to address my comment here as to wither or not i would recognize her as a character I interacted with earlier.)

[NPC Sandy]

(OOG: Maka, it wasn't the same character. Apparently I need to NPC alot less or make even bigger differences in my costuming/make up. Also, whether or not she was 'in-control' was never asked by Bianca's character so she never would have known that. I had transformed multiple times in front of a majority of the towns members a few times, so I'm assuming that qualifies as "under control". Don't know if it helps but...)

[Daniel Lockheart]

(LOL could everyone, not singling out anyone poster, keep this to ingame comments please. Information is passing that I don't know and don't want to know. If you are asking something like (oog is this a human speaking that's one thing. If you are telling me "she didn't ask that" or "she was just an npc" please don't. Kathxbia!)

[Maxine Gordon]

( the question asked was very important to how i would react to the scene and then lochlainn responded to it. try not to poop your panties, dude. and yes, flamyras is a human.)

[Jack of Spades]

I am about to leave for my honey moon. But before I do I will speak my peace with this town. This matter is now a decision for DeVris and the Nobility. The House will handle this as it always does. Jakoric will investigate this matter completely and the truth will guide the Kings justice. I am having my men in Ironguard investigate DeVris case files to determine wither or not were-creatures are considered human. Also, it has always been the duty of the Cavaliers to bring those accused of crimes back to the Magistrate of the town. The power to hold trials in the wilderness is used if they come across a crime out there. Lady Kathryn knows this and I know she will do her duty and bring the accused in alive if that is at all possible. We are the law bringers, not assassins, hired thugs, or vigilantes. Personally I would rather handle this matter myself, in my own way. The people involved are powerful and dangerous and while I believe Kenric more then able to make a sound decision; I believe the repercussions and danger it could bring would be better placed on my shoulders.

*Jack turns and looks to Kenric*

Kenric, let me handle this, I will do so quickly and on my honor the guilty will be punished.

*Jack looks around the room again*

Before ANY of you say I would not do what must be done, you would do well to mind your tone and pick your words carefully.

[Maka]

*maka shrugs*

Not my bizzy unless he's in town causing problems. I trust the three members of DeVris I know whole heartedly.

Lemme know if you need anything from me.

Oh, Jack. I would like to know about people who have a crime committed against them but don't wish to press charges. I still think those people are criminals even if the victims dont press charges.

[Bloodharp]

"Also, as a side-note, I have a nice gash on my forehead from where I tried to stop the attack on her, to which he simply turned and slashed at me twice"

And the charges keep mounting. (Looks to see if you are human?)

(This is Flamyras, and yes he is human.)

[Daniel Lockheart]

I believe your record speaks for itself Jack and would never question you or it. I also just want to point out I offered to help hunt them down, not hunt them down and kill them. My goal has been and remains to see at least the son of Bait stands trial for his actions. It would all go a lot smoother I think for everyone if someone could reach Twilight and tell her to bring him in willingly for such a trial. I think it would go a long way toward his case too if we didn't have to hunt him down.

[Nyrhtak Of Mahuru]

*Nyrhtak tilts his hat up from a shadowed corner*

Luthian.

His name is Luthian and he helped me save Sylas Hay. His father was a great man and his mother...well his mother and I have always had a strange and rocky relationship.

But I think his past actions deserve him at least enough to be referred to by his given name and not to be known only by his father's legacy.

While I know not his surname, I can only guess that perhaps he goes by Luthian Twilight.

His actions were brash and uncalled for. He obviously exhibits the same hotheadedness as his parents.

If his actions find him guilty...I hope only that his legacy is his own, and that people lament the actions of Luthian and not those of "Bait's son", souring the father's legacy.

All this talk of hunting, yet we haven't asked the question: Will he come stand trial of his own accord? He might, it is hard to say.

Sister...if you need help hunting, just ask. I don't know Luthian well, but I can likely subdue him without too much bloodshed. We'll need a mage with the ability to trace teleportation. If I am to tag along, we'd want someone capable of teleporting me, such as Eld or Vaelar.

*Nyrhtak presses a finger to the brim of his hat and angles it back down, shadows returning to his face.*

[Barnabas Vulcan]

Nyrhtak, what will it take to teleport you with your ... special condition? (PM?)

[Daniel Lockheart]

Nyrhtak, my old friend, it's good to see you have not moved on already. Hmm, I would think Luthian son of Bait would be his name, but Luthian son of Twilight will work. And yes, as I mentioned asking him to surrender is clearly the best bet. I've never met him that I am aware of before this recent occurrence.

[olaf]

Olaf slams his recently empted mug upon the bar.

“Bah! All this trouble over something so simple! If Rowan have no problem with Luthian, then he think it was Luthian’s right to kill him, and he deserved it. All done. If werecat’s tribe take offense at her death, it is their feud and their right to seek to take from Luthian, kill him, kill entire Twilight tribe – whatever they feel is needed to balance scales. Others should butt out or take sides as honor demands.”

“Take up arms, brief fight, many stories told by the bonfires after. Much easier in the North.”